Talk:Identity Landscape
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Next meeting: 4/5/07, 3pm ET
Contact Gerald Beuchelt for dial-in information.
Email alias: identity-landscape@openliberty.org
We postponed this meeting until next week, 4/5/2007
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Agenda for the next meeting
1. External Communication
- OSIS - Liberty PPEG - Burton Catalyst
2. Content
- Review Introduction - Discussion of the “Parameter Model”
3. Projects/Technologies
- Required: i-names, XRI and XDI
4. AOB
Meeting Notes 3/15/2007, 3-4pm EDT
Jeff, Gerald, Uppili, Robin
1. Identity Landscape Presentation
The presentation was presented at Liberty TEG, where some changes have been suggested. These have been incorporated into the presentation and will likely also go into the paper. This presentation should also be taken to OSIS, Liberty PPEG, BMEG and other forums.
AI: Robin and Gerald to coordinate Liberty PPEG and BMEG presentation AI: Uppili and Jeff will assist Gerald with the presentation at OSIS AI: Uppili will give try to give feedback before next OSIS call
Robin mentions another Identity paper by John Madlin and Luke Razell that covers some aspects of our paper. The paper is here. We should at least include this as a reference.
2. Proposed Timeline/Milestones
- 4/2/2007: Comprehensive Introduction
- 4/12/2007: Draft 1
- 4/26/2007: Draft 2
- 5/17/2007: Early Release
- 5/31/2007: Version 1.0 completed
Jeff thinks that this seems aggressive, but doable. Robin asks what we could have ready by Brussels Liberty meeting (4/24/07)? There should be a reasonable draft, including a standalone presentation and introduction. This would add a milestone for 4/20. Jeff is quite interested in having some presentable material by then also.
3. Promoting the Paper
The following venues/people should be contacted regarding participation/coordination
- OSIS (Gerald, Jeff, Uppili)
- IOS, Brussels (Robin, Gerald)
- IIW (TBD)
- Identity Conference in Munich (Robin)
- Law School at Nottingham University (Robin)
- Dick Hardt, BC (Jeff)
4. AOB
Jeff notes that the younger generation has very different identity needs: there is much less need for privacy and fear of identity 'theft', since many have a multitude of digital identities and change them frequently. For different groups, there are also other cultural aspects beyond the generation gap.
Robin: we have to cater to the fact that folks are using different digital personas/identities. E.g. young people do change their identities quite frequently, while many of us use multiple identities as well, e.g. work/private, blog commenting etc. Also, multiple personas can be a quite effective privacy protection mechanism (single use identity, credit card, etc.)
The next meeting is on 3/29/07 at 3pm ET.
Meeting Notes 3/1/07, 3-4pm EST
Brett, Scott, Uppili, Gerald
Since the current forums are not working very well, we will move to a mailing list, instead. Brett and Gerald will facilitate this.
Johannes Ernst of NetMesh and Mike Jones of Microsoft have promised sections on OpenId and Windows Cardspace/Infocard, repectively.
Brett suggests that in order to get more contributors we should prepare a slide deck with 1 slide per section. This way we can take the presentation and get agenda time with TEG, PPEG, OSIS, idCommons, OpenID. First slide in the preso should be the charter.
Uppili mentions that we need clarification for scope and intention for the paper as a whole and for each section. An important question in this context is if we want to limit the paper to information only or also give some guidance. There could be recommendation sections, but we have to be very careful to not being controversial.
Gerry and Uppili will work on a better introduction and charter.
Included in this charter/mission should minimally be
- Audience
- Purposes & Scope
- identity and concepts?
- parametrization of systems?
- When and where are these systems used today?
- Application and Deployment
We should aim at removing the fragmentation in the paper (and by extension in the identity landscape) by explaining and describing the spectrum of available technologies.
Scott mentions the current work that is being done by various governments and organizations on inter-federation enablement. He will send out some material and links covering these issues.
Meeting Notes 2/15/2007, 3-3:30pm EST
Jeff Broberg, Peter Davis, Uppili Srinivasan, Gerald Beuchelt
Licensing News
The paper will be published under the Creative Commons Attribution License 2.5. The necessary verbiage is already at the end of the page and there will be a short anchor ref on top.
Mailing list/forum creation
We now have our own sub-forum on the openliberty.org forum. Going forward, we should use that tool for communication and probably also discussion of new ideas. At this point, we do not have a single-sign on, so folks will (for the time) have to register at the forum and the wiki.
As of now, we are using the discussion page of the article for keeping notes, but going forward the forum would be an excellent place for this.
Participation/New Contributors
Uppili Srinivasan from Oracle joins the group and will contribute, as well.
AOB
We agree that joining the RelatedProjects into the paper is a good idea. Gerald will facilitate this.
Our current focus is to get more contributors.
Peter suggests a couple of new sections on identifiers and policy implications of identity. He will add some placeholders for this.
Meeting Notes: 2/8/2007, 2:30-3:20pm EST
Peter Davis, Jeff Broberg, Brett McDowell, Scott Cantor, Gerald Beuchelt
Scope of the Paper
The Liberty Board of Directors asked for a 'Identity Landscape' paper to be written. This is intended to be an inclusive effort, that should reach out to the identity community.
Current Status
Contributers: PeterD, Brett & Eve (based on presentation), JeffB (licensing & what about MSFT),
Jeff would like to invite MSFT right away - particularly since they have expressed interest in working with the identity community recently at the RSA conference. Gerald will contact Kim C and Mike J and invite them
Scott: cannot take AIs - he will try to help with the review. We should stayaway from comparing architecture, but instead try to create a means to compare different technologies. Remove references to specific technologies in the context of this paper. There are currently efforts underwya to update John Linn's paper on Trust models. Scott suggest that we should try to contact John.
Outline bashing & Content
Scott: There should be a clear distinction between specifications and protocols vs. deployments - Deployments of specific technologies might result in different parameters for the same technologies.
Peter: What about Policies? Will add another section.
Scott: Level of assurance (particularly in the context of Government) How much trust do you put into a IdP, etc. ?
Procedural issues
Con-call meeting for follow-up: Bi-weekly, 3-4pm EST (Thur)
The intended licensing modelfor this paper is a CC Wiki style licensing. This is currently being discussed with Brett and Roger Sullivan.
